Mr. Yoshiyasu Hayashi (YH): We were also very happy when you decided to participate in this joint research because we felt Hi-Def was a very ambitious function and an exciting new challenge. We're very grateful for your participation. Nara Medical University has been taking the lead in IR under the guidance of a number of key opinion leaders (KOLs) in the field, starting with Dr. Tanaka. The university actively participates in international congresses, and we expect that the results of this research will be presented to a global audience. That's the background when we proposed this joint research.
TT: What was the aim of Hi-Def development?
YH: Although some clinical experience had already been gathered for the brain, this was the first attempt to employ Hi-Def in the abdomen. The key advantage of Hi-Def is its extremely small and precise pixel size, which allows the acquired images to be greatly enlarged. To make the best possible use of this advantage, we first needed to develop innovative approaches in all aspects of imaging to fully exploit the performance capabilities of Hi-Def in the abdomen as well.
We developed a dedicated X-ray tube and also optimised image processing techniques to ensure that Hi-Def could perform at its full potential. Our final goal was to ensure that doctors could clearly see the embolic materials, such as coils, as well as minute blood vessels during IR procedures. Various teams in the development department worked closely together to achieve this goal.
Not only the development team but also sales representatives, application specialists, and service engineers were able to receive detailed feedback from doctors, which helped us to improve the quality of Hi-Def when used in the clinical setting. For a full month after system installation, we worked together with the doctors to fine-tune the images and ensure that the system was operating at peak performance.
I'm very pleased and grateful that all the stakeholders were able to work in close collaboration as one team.
TT: Yes, I remember. When I was shown images of cerebral aneurysm coiling in the brain, I expected something like that in the abdomen, and when I actually experienced it in clinical practice, it fully met my expectations. Hi-Def is undoubtedly effective for coil embolisation. One of the unique benefits of Hi-Def is that we can identify the location of the microcatheter in coils. That is, even if a lesion appears to be completely filled with coils, Hi-Def allows us to see any gaps in the coils and identify areas where additional coils can be placed. In addition, when I was studying in Germany, I was involved in research focusing on the embolisation of liver cancers using microspheres, embolic material consisting of tiny spheres with a diameter of only 40 μm. The depiction of minute objects with Hi-Def is an extension of that research, and I have very high hopes for its future development.
YH: Hi-Def has a pixel size 76 μm, and we took on the challenge of applying it to the abdomen after having gained substantial experience in the brain. However, we couldn't apply it to the abdomen in exactly the same way because the abdomen is thicker than the brain. It was very difficult to fine-tune the system and determine the optimal dose settings and image processing parameters. We were finally able to optimize the parameters and achieve the current high level of performance after installation thanks to the suggestions and guidance we received from Dr. Tanaka and the technologists at the hospital.
TT: Yes, parameter setting was difficult at first. To be honest, when I saw it the first time, I had some doubts. I wondered, "Is this going to be usable?" However, we doctors, our technologists, and the staff of Canon Medical worked together as a tight cross-disciplinary team until our efforts paid off. The improvements were remarkable, and I started to have the feeling, "This will really work!"
YH: In what areas do you think Hi-Def can really demonstrate its full potential?